Comments on: Refillable Ink and CIS http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis my writing and photography Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: vixsolympian http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-3296 vixsolympian Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:16:00 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-3296 GFs etsy business is taking off. This week she went through half of her dark magenta cartridge (she printed 90 cards last night) and I had to find a better way. After reading your review we canceled an inexpensive CIS from amazon and I bought her the bigfoot CISS for her epson 1400 and it should be here in a few days. Hoping her cartridges hold out till then. Thanks for the great review. Vixensempire GFs etsy business is taking off. This week she went through half of her dark magenta cartridge (she printed 90 cards last night) and I had to find a better way. After reading your review we canceled an inexpensive CIS from amazon and I bought her the bigfoot CISS for her epson 1400 and it should be here in a few days. Hoping her cartridges hold out till then. Thanks for the great review.

Vixensempire

]]> By: Warren http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-2439 Warren Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:53:26 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-2439 A round about way to purge one color is to print a solid page of only that color. Efillink.com has them available here: http://www.efillink.com/files/Purge-R800.tif http://www.efillink.com/files/8_Individual_color.zip A round about way to purge one color is to print a solid page of only that color. Efillink.com has them available here:
http://www.efillink.com/files/Purge-R800.tif
http://www.efillink.com/files/8_Individual_color.zip

]]> By: Steve Streeper http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-2438 Steve Streeper Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:27:32 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-2438 I've had my R1900 for a couple of years and am amazed at how much money it costs to run it! It seems that my yellow nozzle is perpetually clogged. If I interrupt a printing session for more than five minutes, I get to clean the nozzles again to get a clean print. Today I had some time for printing, but had to do chores, work, etc. After cleaning the nozzles TWICE before leaving for work, I returned home this afternoon, only to enjoy another nozzle cleaning! I took time off to eat, only to return to banded prints...another cleaning. After actually printing two 8x10's, eight 4x6's and a couple of banded failure 8x10's...those three carts I replaced this morning are now down about 35%! I plan to move to a CIS as I just can't afford to feather Epson's nest any longer. Thanks, everyone, for your comments and insight. The Epson OEM stuff is nice, but WAAAY to much money for what you get. Thanks, Steve Streeper PS-Does anyone know how to clean a specific nozzle when it clogs?? I’ve had my R1900 for a couple of years and am amazed at how much money it costs to run it! It seems that my yellow nozzle is perpetually clogged. If I interrupt a printing session for more than five minutes, I get to clean the nozzles again to get a clean print.

Today I had some time for printing, but had to do chores, work, etc. After cleaning the nozzles TWICE before leaving for work, I returned home this afternoon, only to enjoy another nozzle cleaning! I took time off to eat, only to return to banded prints…another cleaning. After actually printing two 8×10′s, eight 4×6′s and a couple of banded failure 8×10′s…those three carts I replaced this morning are now down about 35%!

I plan to move to a CIS as I just can’t afford to feather Epson’s nest any longer. Thanks, everyone, for your comments and insight. The Epson OEM stuff is nice, but WAAAY to much money for what you get.

Thanks,
Steve Streeper

PS-Does anyone know how to clean a specific nozzle when it clogs??

]]> By: John Molloy http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-1754 John Molloy Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:46:19 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-1754 Good Golly , I haven't seen one comment other than mine in weeks in here, guess I have to give up on this venue as it seems no one comes in here very often. Too bad as I liked the comments I have seen in here before! If anyone is interested I have still seen zero problems with having added and mixed two different brands of dye, water based inks together. Happy Printing! Good Golly , I haven’t seen one comment other than mine in weeks in here, guess I have to give up on this venue as it seems no one comes in here very often. Too bad as I liked the comments I have seen in here before! If anyone is interested I have still seen zero problems with having added and mixed two different brands of dye, water based inks together. Happy Printing!

]]> By: John Molloy http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-1712 John Molloy Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:58:42 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-1712 so far so good, been a week with no visible difference. the 2 brands seem happy with the marriage. so far so good, been a week with no visible difference. the 2 brands seem happy with the marriage.

]]> By: John Molloy http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-1703 John Molloy Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:16:42 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-1703 OK! I did it. I changed over to Inkjetcarts brand Claria type ink from Ink Republic ink right in the bottle without purging a thing. I know many people that say that is asking for a problem but I am taking that risk since both inks are dye inks although different brands. I'll let you know if I goofed or not but it will take a few days. When I got the printer I was told to use the Epson Carts and then change to the bulk ink so I reasoned that this is the same thing and that worked out great! Anyway I'm only risking a relatively cheap printer, a C88+ model and I figure if it clogs I can run cleaner or windex through the unit and regroup! Yellow in the c88's always causes problems for some reason but the wife's 1400 stylus seems happy and she is approaching at least a thousand full color prints. If there is no problem with the C88 I will switch her 1400 over to the Inkjetcart ink also as it is good and only $3.50 per bottle for 120 mils. Happy printing! OK! I did it. I changed over to Inkjetcarts brand Claria type ink from Ink Republic ink right in the bottle without purging a thing. I know many people that say that is asking for a problem but I am taking that risk since both inks are dye inks although different brands. I’ll let you know if I goofed or not but it will take a few days. When I got the printer I was told to use the Epson Carts and then change to the bulk ink so I reasoned that this is the same thing and that worked out great! Anyway I’m only risking a relatively cheap printer, a C88+ model and I figure if it clogs I can run cleaner or windex through the unit and regroup! Yellow in the c88′s always causes problems for some reason but the wife’s 1400 stylus seems happy and she is approaching at least a thousand full color prints. If there is no problem with the C88 I will switch her 1400 over to the Inkjetcart ink also as it is good and only $3.50 per bottle for 120 mils. Happy printing!

]]> By: John Molloy http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-1694 John Molloy Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:39:41 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-1694 To answer Warren's comments. Yes indeed, the ton of money saved is sweet but I can also honestly say that the quality of prints we get are so close to OEM results that we can not see the difference and my wife is a "Fine Artist" so her eye for color balance is well trained! We are not photo pro's but we average close to 100 full page prints a month and more at times! As for the Shear Frustration factor mentioned, so far it has not existed since from the time I set her printer up to date, we have not had any problems with the CIS system at all. The bottom line for us is that we can finally afford to print all we want and are really enjoying it! We have 4 printers at the moment and I'm setting them all up with either CIS damper systems or the refillable dampers with the "chip bars" that tell the printer that it has full carts. I have both dye based and pigment based kits already installed or ready to go! If I see something better I'll probably go for it but what we have right now is really working for us! With the money saved I not only bought my wife a new camera but I got her another Epson 1400 ( still in the box) as a backup when we eventually wear the first one out! To answer Warren’s comments. Yes indeed, the ton of money saved is sweet but I can also honestly say that the quality of prints we get are so close to OEM results that we can not see the difference and my wife is a “Fine Artist” so her eye for color balance is well trained! We are not photo pro’s but we average close to 100 full page prints a month and more at times! As for the Shear Frustration factor mentioned, so far it has not existed since from the time I set her printer up to date, we have not had any problems with the CIS system at all. The bottom line for us is that we can finally afford to print all we want and are really enjoying it! We have 4 printers at the moment and I’m setting them all up with either CIS damper systems or the refillable dampers with the “chip bars” that tell the printer that it has full carts. I have both dye based and pigment based kits already installed or ready to go! If I see something better I’ll probably go for it but what we have right now is really working for us! With the money saved I not only bought my wife a new camera but I got her another Epson 1400 ( still in the box) as a backup when we eventually wear the first one out!

]]> By: Warren http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-1691 Warren Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:46:25 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-1691 There is no question; it saves a ton of money. It's just a matter of whether the sheer frustration at times is worth the savings...which depends on the volume you print. There is also the issue of quality, which so far hasn't quite matched the Epson OEM inks. There is no question; it saves a ton of money. It’s just a matter of whether the sheer frustration at times is worth the savings…which depends on the volume you print. There is also the issue of quality, which so far hasn’t quite matched the Epson OEM inks.

]]> By: John Molloy http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-1690 John Molloy Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:19:13 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-1690 Please check my math on this . Assuming you are running a CIS system with an Epson 1400 using the 240 mil bottles, that is 6x240 or a total of 1440 mil of ink. Assuming Epson OEM cartridges have 12 mil of ink per cart that would be the equivalent of 120 Epson Cartridges at $20.00 each! That works out to $2400.00. Now I know if you shop around you might find Epson OEM carts for a bit less( perhaps $18.00?) or i might be a little off on that 12 mil per cart comment but not too much I think. So, lets knock $300 off my figures just for the sake of argument. I can buy the 1440 mil bottles for a total for all 6 for $60.00 and have. And the ink prints great and I can see no difference in the quality. That means my CIS system saves me at least $2000.00 each refill! The OEM only camp can say what they want and bless them but for me, I'm loving the savings and we print a lot of full page photographs and I just bought my wife a new Panasonic Lumix camera (FZ-35) with just a small part of our savings! Please check my math on this . Assuming you are running a CIS system with an Epson 1400 using the 240 mil bottles, that is 6×240 or a total of 1440 mil of ink. Assuming Epson OEM cartridges have 12 mil of ink per cart that would be the equivalent of 120 Epson Cartridges at $20.00 each! That works out to $2400.00. Now I know if you shop around you might find Epson OEM carts for a bit less( perhaps $18.00?) or i might be a little off on that 12 mil per cart comment but not too much I think. So, lets knock $300 off my figures just for the sake of argument. I can buy the 1440 mil bottles for a total for all 6 for $60.00 and have. And the ink prints great and I can see no difference in the quality. That means my CIS system saves me at least $2000.00 each refill! The OEM only camp can say what they want and bless them but for me, I’m loving the savings and we print a lot of full page photographs and I just bought my wife a new Panasonic Lumix camera (FZ-35) with just a small part of our savings!

]]> By: John Molloy http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis/comment-page-1#comment-1608 John Molloy Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:19:24 +0000 http://www.warrenhenke.com/photography/refillable-ink-and-cis#comment-1608 Still printing with a damper based CIS system with no trouble at all. Windex resolved a clog I had with a second Epson printer we have and it is printing just fine. One question I have had for some time now concerns mixing inks. My wife got started with one good brand and it is just fine but I have found another brand that is formulated for her printer and is reputed to be as good for less than half the price. My question is if we stick to dye based ink only, do we really need to clean out the tubing and dampers first before switching inks or is it ok to simply run down the first ink and then switch to the new brand. To make the change without actually mixing the different brands of ink in the bottles I was thinking of cutting and reattaching the tubing to the new fill tubes holding the new inks. I would think that this is no different than using Epson OEM cartridges starting out with a new printer and then using inks in a CIS system which is the recommendation from CIS people. If anyone has done this or has insight on this question could they please post it for me? Thanks in advance! Still printing with a damper based CIS system with no trouble at all. Windex resolved a clog I had with a second Epson printer we have and it is printing just fine. One question I have had for some time now concerns mixing inks. My wife got started with one good brand and it is just fine but I have found another brand that is formulated for her printer and is reputed to be as good for less than half the price. My question is if we stick to dye based ink only, do we really need to clean out the tubing and dampers first before switching inks or is it ok to simply run down the first ink and then switch to the new brand. To make the change without actually mixing the different brands of ink in the bottles I was thinking of cutting and reattaching the tubing to the new fill tubes holding the new inks. I would think that this is no different than using Epson OEM cartridges starting out with a new printer and then using inks in a CIS system which is the recommendation from CIS people. If anyone has done this or has insight on this question could they please post it for me? Thanks in advance!

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